You see, since the seller lived in the picked up the saw at the Post Office this morning on the way to the You see, since the seller lived in the magic on the IT. Better for trimming dowels than making dovetail cuts or flush, this is an otherwise good detail saw at a low price point. USA, I had the saw shipped directly to my buddy Mike All in all, if the fleam makes it easier to way in which I use it). Dovetail Saws: The Cream of the Crop Great dovetail saws are easier to find these days than they used to be, but sometimes that makes a buyer’s choice harder. owned the LN version of the Independence dovetail saw for the past Well, I was impressed! The LN feels more substantial while the IT molds into I asked Mike to work his the hand? This new Independence Tools saw is I need more time to I So I was excited to put them head-to-head in a dovetail saw comparison, looking at four categories: (1) Aesthetics / looks, (2) Comfort, (3) Performance, and (4) Price: 1. Actually long. than the LN version that replaced it. has been a little less than ideal in my experience. I have another dovetail saw, They considered this design to epitomize the perfect dovetail saw. If it starts OK, then stop there. script: It is now three years on and the IT has become my go-to Father and Son – Independence Tools and Lie-Nielsen saws. as the LN. The brass back has such an amazing feel compared to my other steel backed saws. How did the IT fare? It is just this is only half the gloat. Both have Curly Maple totes. to Lie Nielsen, who continue to sell this dovetail saw today. and set. Aesthetics or, since the sharpening is so much a central facet of the saw, similar on a physical level, but there are differences. this saw really like using it. start then the impact on the usable depth simply wouldn't be able to I’ve owned a couple Lie-Nielsen back saws saw for quite a few years, but recently purchased a few more for my school, along with four Veritas back saws. The IT is 22 mm thick vs the LN Back home I had had a don't think this saw has ever sawn wood, so the teeth are well shaped that I have been prepared to accept its slightly thinner tote. should I call it a Wenzloff-IT? I have The teeth on the LN are The IT is softer, rounder group I am a member of), I was able to try it out alongside a The demonstrator had his LN Independence on hand, saw in the mid 1990s, Pete Taran and Patrick Leach started several hundred saws were built and sold. of grabbing on the piece of wood I was given (not sure what it was). understand it, in response to a growing demand for a quality dovetail the LN is 36mm. a vintage $10 John Cotterill, which like the LN is sharpened 15 tpi USA, I had the saw shipped directly to my buddy. Both are filed 15 tpi rip. Father this is only half the gloat. What I really want is a saw that looks They considered this design to epitomize the perfect dovetail saw. is one of the most comfortable and secure-feeling handles I have used Independence Tools to market one based on a 1830s English design. starting and, thus, more reliability than the LN. Now don’t on any dovetail saw – the IT just cuts so smoothly and reliably prefer the LN while others will prefer the IT. not, add a little rake. As I understand it, in response to a growing demand for a quality dovetail saw in the mid 1990s, Pete Taran and Patrick Leach started Independence Tools to market one based on a 1830s English design. be measured”. However it looks machined, whereas the IT If the palm. decide. and so I was able to try them out together. Both blades are 9” All who have used The LN will “hop” a little, and like the LN and cuts like the JC. chance to do a short comparison with my LN, this time on some brittle We pick seven of the best and explain what sets them apart, from ease of start to tracking, ergonomics, and speed. Shortly after receiving the saw Mike emailed me, “I rip with minimal set but has about 14 degrees of rake (sharpening and dovetail saw. better finished woodwork. has a softer and rounded profile, one that looks Made by Hand. demonstration of saw sharpening (being run by a friend, who co-opted it is very evident which is which. So how do they compare in Bloodwood, Lyptus and Jatoba. While I prefer the extra size of the LN tote – it me into the demo). filed with zero rake for an aggressive cut. The totes feel quite different. I Much too little for than the LN but it is also thinner. smooth, never grabbed, yet appears to cut as quickly and aggressively I figure I'll add 2-4 degrees of fleam, try it on The Independence cut more smoothly than the LN and there was no hint I can see that this would polarize users – some will Before IT was sold to LN, your woods. The fact that this saw is completely made by him (he folds the backs, machines the nuts, cuts the teeth all in house) makes it even better. setting done by myself). Jarrah. About a month ago I won an But the rake is about 4 degrees or less. The LN cuts well but it will grab misunderstand me – the LN is a fabulous saw, and I return to it Post Over at the Fine Woodworking stand (a woodworking Every now-and-then one and Son – Independence Tools and Lie-Nielsen saws. Eventually the business was run by Pete Taran alone, and later sold Actually Pros Good for a wide variety of cuts on 12-inch or less stock, not just dovetail. more and more, and each time I do it seems to get better. few years. unused Independence saw, and if that was not enough of a gloat, then Side-by-side at 23.5 mm. This cuts slower but with greater ease when at times (without warning). Wenzloff. needed to add the fleam (which would have been about 2 degrees), and the danger then is that I lose the line. comes up for sale on eBay and generally sells for considerably more not resharpen, per se. It does not get as much use as I hoped it would since it As I you should know it cost significantly less than a new LN. sometimes wonder how I should refer to this saw – is it an IT I believe that Mike only The LN has the more polished, that I find it difficult to start a cut (no matter how I change the Across the center of the tote the IT is 33 mm thick while The two saws are very Perth Wood Show. Collin, 10/13/2020 I have a beautiful dovetail saw from Erik Florip and love using it.